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Posted - 2009.01.11 08:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Sera Ryskin
1) Having an opinion that fits into reality. Some things are up for debate, but if you ignore science/logic/etc in forming your opinions, you get zero respect.
2) Defending your opinion rationally. If you don't understand your positions well enough to defend them against criticism, how exactly are they any better than if you'd just flipped a coin to decide and managed to get the right answer by blind luck?
My reality and rational are totally different to yours. I wouldn't possibly expect you to understand where my point of view comes from, not in the least because you haven't seen, heard or felt the things I have. Unless you have witnessed a revolution or two and have seen the horrible things people do to eachother.
Originally by: Akita T
... is exactly zero.
And what makes your opinion respectable over mine? Unlike most people I have witnessed what I speak of but because I don't fit in within the scope of what they have been fed my idea's are 'extreme'.
Ignorance is bliss and that's how most people live their lives, making those who have not witnessed what they speak off irrelevant. Think about that. |
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Posted - 2009.01.11 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sera Ryskin
That falls under point #2, by the way, personal experience is just fine for supporting your positions (though it doesn't overrule everything else, if there is contradictory evidence).
What is contradictory evidence than being told what anyone or anything wants you to know?
I will give examples below that I do not want to turn into some stupid political discussion. I will report all who flame this.
Fact I:
Iraq will welcome its liberation with open arms.
Truth:
Do I even need to provide any?
Fact II:
China is a dictatoriship that squashes all religious, political and other forms of speech.
Personal opinion:
I can, without a doubt, say that what you are told by the media is a lie.
Now is this about respect or is this about who has the biggest mouth? You can provide whatever 'proof' you want but you will never prove me right, not in the least because your 'evidence' is not first hand or polluted.
I do not want to discuss Tibet, Xinjiang, Burma, or any other place on earth. Remember this thread is about respect and all I wanted to do was prove that personal experience, by far, outweighs what you think you know just because you have never experienced it. If you don't want to experience something that is fine but do not claim something just based on what the media tells you, that is the least respectful thing you can do.
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Posted - 2009.01.13 05:02:00 -
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And this stupid thread continues. This thread is just like the Gaza massacre: he who has the biggest gun is right.
While you're all busy running around like headless chickens trying to 'prove' shining wrong you prove yourselves wrong because you're unable to detach yourselves from your narrow vision of the world. You call him while, in fact, you are all the ignorant ones and ganging up on him won't make you right.
Yesterday some guy mentioned that the only two countries not suffering from economic disaster right now are the UK and Germany. Someone else proved him wrong and got ganged upon by half the forum members and got banned. It's these pathetic kind of tactics that are the cause of many of todays problems and if you think you are right by might then enjoy living in your own little world.
Shining, you have my respect. |
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Posted - 2009.01.13 05:19:00 -
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Edited by: Super Whopper on 13/01/2009 05:32:24
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Super Whopper
Yesterday some guy mentioned that the only two countries not suffering from economic disaster right now are the UK and Germany. Someone else proved him wrong and got ganged upon by half the forum members and got banned.
You can't be serious... UK is so obviously into deep crap, and Germany doesn't look all that good either, and whoever says otherwise is having a 'shrooms-induced trip or somesuch. I find it hard to believe the majority of this forum would be so stupid as to claim the UK and Germany are unaffected or that they would support somebody who says that, even lacking fresh obvious proof to the contrary.
Link to the thread you mention so that we can all go in and make fun of the people who claim otherwise.
I can't link the thread, I got IP ban 
This is what happened to me when I posted on Channel 4 news forums too. Years ago I posted my view, as a professional, regarding children, SSers (Social Services) and the way the UK had, intentionaly, created generations of children who had grown up in the ghetto/slums/council estates and that I saw the SS as a sort of legitimate form of oppression. I got promptly banned. I realised then that people just don't want to hear the truth.
People need to believe that they live in lala land and if that idea is tarnished in any way shape or form their world comes crumbling down. It is the same with Shining. He has his beliefs and clings to them, for that I respect him. I do think he takes pleasure in being the centre of attention, but then who doesn't? I respect him for his political views which would be classed as 'controvertial' by those who disagree. Though, to be honest, the ramblings in this thread are making me lose some of that respect. |
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Posted - 2009.01.19 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Person A can say: freedom is paramount and must not be compromised. Who can argue against freedom?
Person B can say: the safety and wellbeing of children must be our first concern. Who can argue against keeping children safe?
Person C can say: we must never permit injustice to go unpunished. Wo can argue against injustice?
But obviously, freedom, justice and the wellbeing of children must often conflict with each other, despite the fact that every thinks that all 3 are essential. How can you say that Person A and B are dishonest for disagreeing with Person C that justice must always be done?
Freedom, justice and wellbeing of society in general do conflict with eachother. The names of their conflict are Social Services and justice. Justice does not exist when it comes to the Na-zi's of the SS. I can give you many an example of the sheer evil of this fascist and terrorist organisation, proving that your point is, right and wrong at the same time. Those who have felt the immense power of the SS know they are powerless, while those who have not seen to what extent these madmen are willing to go, will argue in their favour.
Now discuss this when it comes to respect: how can one respect an organisation with absolute powers in a society that pretends to be 'democratic'? The society is, obviously, not democratic, as has been proven over and over again, and freedom is only an illusion given to people until it is taken away. |
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Posted - 2009.01.20 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit
Originally by: Sokratesz
I consider teaching belief to children molestation
I understand what you mean, but that is the wrong choice of words. This is the extreme of what you mean, and yes it's wrong and yes it's against children's human rights.
I find your utter and immense ignorance to be offensive and if this is what you are teaching your children then you are mollesting them. People who have never left their little village or parents basements deserve no respect and you, sir, get none from me. Your selfrightiousness leaves a very bad taste in my mouth everytime I read your posts.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit
And I respect your right to believe that, even though I believe different  This is why religion and politics need to kept off the forums. Nothing divides men more
There's a difference between believing something because you have seen it on T.V. and personal experience. I have the latter, I bet you barely have the former.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit
Didn't you say indoctrinating children was wrong a few posts ago? My point was that there are degrees of what is and isn't acceptable, and different people differ in those degrees. There was no derailment at all, I was highlighting your very own point.
Wrong. You tried and failed to derail this thread with ignorance. Only a small portion of the world see what you posted as abuse. The majority of the world see it otherwise.
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Posted - 2009.01.20 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit
Originally by: Super Whopper
Only a small portion of the world see what you posted as abuse.
Game, set, match. You managed to lose your own argument. You can have the rest of thread, it'll be locked soon enough anyway. PS. The above was nothing to do with Islam, it was to do with hamas. There's a world of difference. And it was highlighting the difference between indoctrination, and simply teaching kids faith. 
True ignorance isn't not knowing but not not wanting to know. Your ramblings prove you to be the latter.
With that I will take the thread indeed. |
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Posted - 2009.01.21 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: KingsGambit
Why would anyone teach their children something they believe to be wrong? I will teach my children what I (and hopefully my hot, millionairess wife) believe to be true and you will pass your beliefs to yours.
Your mother is not your millionairess wife and her basement is not a mansion. No matter how many times you say it to yourself, but then you have the right to believe whatever you want for the moment.
Nice contradiction there by the way. You have permission to leave the thread now.
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